The music world is littered with female
singers who've been groomed for pop stardom their whole lives. Their
sound, looks and style are constantly dictated by record company
suits. Marina & the Diamonds subverts these traditions at every
turn.
It's a fine line she walks and of
course there are compromises, but no one strides the line between
artist and mainstream pop star quite like Marina. With hit songs like
'Primadonna' there's no denying her commercial draw, but she couldn't
be further from the Britneys and Christinas of the world.
For starters, she cites the avant garde
American songwriter Daniel Johnston as one of her main influences.
The obscure singer was the subject of a 2006 documentary The Devil
and Daniel Johnston, which focused on his gifted but often bizarre
songwriting talents and his struggles with mental illness.
“I think he changed my perception of
what pop music could be” Marina says. “The way in which he wrote
was in a very pop way but his recordings were completely lo-fi, DIY,
like mental all over the place”.
“His voice was not really a technical
singers voice so he changed my perceptions on what it was to be a
singer. You don't have to be a good singer necessarily to be a good
artist and that helped at the time because I had no training
whatsoever”.
Marina doesn't come from a musical
background, and didn't even decide she wanted to be a pop star until
the age of 20. She acknowledges this left her with a lot of catching
up to do but she also describes her drive to succeed as 'delusional'.
“I think it took a lot longer yeah,
because by the time I had my first album out I was 24, I'm 27 now.
It's definitely been DIY in the sense that I was really doing it
myself, I was teaching myself everything I could in order to get to a
point where I could be considered a pop artist”.
“I think that you have to believe in
things that don't exist or that seem like a complete impossibility.
It always seems the case with people who I've always admired. They
said they were going to do things and in their own belief they were,
so yeah, I think it's necessary as an artist”.
While her first record marked Marina &
The Diamonds as ones to watch, her sophomore album Electra Heart was
a huge step forward upon it's release last April. Working with a
number of top writers and producers including Dr. Nick (Katy Perry)
and Rick Nowels (Madonna) Marina produced a vastly superior follow up
album.
But having written her debut The Family
Jewels entirely by herself, Marina was a little uncomfortable at
first in her new environment.
“I guess the two big producers on
there were Stargate (Beyonce, Rihanna) and Dr. Luke and they actually
didn't come until the very end. The only way that we worked together
was because my A&R knew Luke and was friends with him. I was
really ambivalent at the beginning. I was like 'No, I don't think
this is the right choice for me', then I realised that I was just
saying no because I was really scared”.
“I thought 'that's not very good,
you're not really challenging yourself'. So I went in and I wrote one
of the best songs, for me, that I've ever written which was 'Lies'.
From then on I was seeing things quite differently in terms of pop
and what was generic and supposedly empty and crap and what was good
and pure and artistic. I think that's somewhere in the middle”.
There is a sense that Marina's artistic
ambitions are sometimes in conflict with the mainstream parameters
she finds herself working in. But she has redefined what we've come
to expect of a female popstar, to the point where artistic integrity
can go hand in hand with commercial success.
“I think the purpose of this second
album was not to make a point or anything about how to use that pop
model and the pop system that people on the indie side just think is
generic or just shitty or a sell out with such producers”.
“I wanted to see if I could subvert
that and use it in a way that would be helpful for me and also
helpful for them in terms of them working with someone who was not
performing from 4 years old on stage, doing adverts and that sort of
Hollywood child star environment. It's absolutely the opposite of
that”.
Still Marina seems uncomfortable
working with such an array of producers and admits that for her next
record, she would prefer more input, as she had on her first record.
“Going into these writing sessions,
sometimes on the credits there can be up to like 8 people on them,
even though there's only 3 people in the room. It's quite a confusing
world in terms of that and I think back to my first album which was
so simple and I was just writing on my own”.
“I feel like, it was right on this
occasion, but I think my strength is as the songwriter of the song. I
think I feel happiest doing that. At the moment that's what I'm
really hungry for. Probably because I haven't done it for a while.
But I don't know, I don't ever want to be black and white about
things”.
Electra Heart has helped Marina &
The Diamonds to make a name in America, but Marina is curiously coy
about how important success on the other side of the Atlantic means
to her and once more, the artist in her shines through.
“I don't know anymore because I think
I realised you can only do what fascinates you and enthuses you and
if that also enthuses other people then that's great. But you really
can't do anything more than that. It's all really in the hands of the
gods, or the people who control radio! But if this album does become
bigger and does better in the States I think I will be really pleased
because I think it deserves to. But I dunno... I don't know whether
it's important anymore. I think It's just important to feel like
globally I'm understood as an artists and I can go anywhere and the
fans will talk”
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